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Post by Lamont on Apr 13, 2024 13:53:18 GMT 11
Interested in what all you SOS seekers think :3
Feel free to share any other thoughts via post! Poll locks in 3 weeks.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 13, 2024 14:02:50 GMT 11
As someone who had gone through SOS hunting in Ilex forest. Maybe Ilex should be kept out of SOS? That'll be my only input ATM This is mostly because I can't use bike in forest. I think other areas are okay. but I'm whatever since I have most of them already. shrug
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Post by Lamont on Apr 13, 2024 14:41:40 GMT 11
My brain's a bit foggy atm so I may just be forgetting something, but can't you use bike in Ilex? As long as you're not doing one of the quests at the same time at least :3 Only restrictions on using Bikes is not vs NPCs or during quests as far as I remember *thinks*
lol Just imagining the bumpy trail ride haha.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 13, 2024 14:43:18 GMT 11
My brain's a bit foggy atm so I may just be forgetting something, but can't you use bike in Ilex? As long as you're not doing one of the quests at the same time at least :3 Only restrictions on using Bikes is not vs NPCs or during quests as far as I remember *thinks*lol Just imagining the bumpy trail ride haha. AFAIK I'm told we can't bike in Ilex because it's special area? now IDR who or where I heard it from. like if I encountered the ghost, can I still use bike to hang around or nah? Let's come back to this when you have Clear Mind and Defog that brain fog.
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Post by Tarlar on Apr 13, 2024 19:20:29 GMT 11
While the battle database threads could be bike threads (if soloed or everyone participating has a bike), I think it will be harder for the Ilex themselves. With Ilex being a shared social rp place, and not with personal threads, I'd say it will be harder to keep track on, if people are biking or not. Right now I'm just looking at the title, and we can't really do that in Ilex And it would be a mess if someone ran into each other and one had a bike while the others didn't. As for weather SOS, I'm not really interested in the options either. But it also needs to be really interesting since you have so little chance of getting them, and you need to be ready to drop anything you're doing for perhaps one sos battle, and then you have to wait again. So if you're in the middle of a battle, or especially a quest or something, there is little time to try get it. It was hard enough to be ready to get the weather vivillons evolved Chasing weather can be a hassle I think letting the weather move-weather be able to be used for the SOS hunting would make it a lot more accessibly, although I haven't really tried SOS'ing after the change of chance, so I don't know how much easier it is to encounter one currently, compared to how it was before.
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Post by Caramell 🍬 on Apr 13, 2024 22:27:06 GMT 11
You should know my view on this already. Considering I was getting pretty invested in SOS mons and would have all my work derailed for a solid month if the wrong overworld weather was in play, it's completely discouraging and disregards me actively wanting a supposedly more common SOS than the weather SOS. Having some way to at least reset the weather in my battle so I can still attempt for the regular SOS would be perfect. Doesn't take away from weather SOS mons at all and still makes them unique enough on their own, without just plain out annoying me by taking away my hunt for - again - something that's normally more common than them (a 365 days a year SOS verses a "once in a blue moon"/when the weather's right SOS). Also what Tarlar said on Ilex too. We're 'forced' group rp with others since they're all Universal threads. It just takes one person in the thread to be non-bike to remove the bike perk (unless we let other benefit from something they don't have via proxy), and would be a nightmare to track for mod list (people constantly re-editing the list to place the right note in the right place). That being said, right now the risk is pretty low. But it may not always be this way. So Universal has a pretty not bike-friendly feel to the way they run honestly unless you're lucked out being solo.
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Post by Tarlar on Apr 14, 2024 3:17:36 GMT 11
Perhaps defog could be a way to remove weather for sos? So if you have used a adrenaline orb, defog can clear the weather?
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Post by Tiki on Apr 14, 2024 3:31:00 GMT 11
We can still usethe current sos pokemon somewhere that don’t have sos. Like a weather exclusive sos encounter zone? There’s only one pokemon in each rarity bracket for simplicity Like… national park Or in cities without an actual cities encounter (Like not cherry grove and goldenrod because they already have town encounter) but maybe azalea? Ecruteak? Could use it to backfill missing pokemon too. Maybe not new bark town I actually prefer people keep moving along Edit: Defog then weaken for adrenaline orb also works too?
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Post by redridinghood on Apr 15, 2024 6:23:26 GMT 11
I like the concept, I can see it being frustrating if you're seeking a certain Encounter.
What I think could be done is maybe a list of encounters for the Weather SOS instead of just one, or maybe they rotate.
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Post by Caramell 🍬 on Apr 15, 2024 7:06:55 GMT 11
I like the concept, I can see it being frustrating if you're seeking a certain Encounter. What I think could be done is maybe a list of encounters for the Weather SOS instead of just one, or maybe they rotate. Weather SOS are listed here. The SOS you see on the main city boards are every day SOS. Probably wouldn't edit in weather SOS everywhere as they apply and remove as that's substantially more work on the upper staff who can and do edit it (Lamont mostly) unlike swarms which are added/removed to 3~ areas to last for 3 months. Edit: or do you mean each Weather can have multiple options that fit that Weather? Considering most of the weather ones now aren't something I'd hunt for in a weather in a single month with such rare chances, heavily agreed. Even Munchlax in Ilex seems less of a headache than current Weather SOS (my opinion again) since I don't potentially need to wait for the right weather in the right month in the RIGHT SEASON for quite a few weather's only to have all that removed in a month (with 1 post 3 days that's 10 post. At best 2 SOS full attempts with a OHKO on 4 mons (orbed + 3 called) rinse/repeat, not counting longer response waits on top of possible longer rounds per KO) it's just. Not what I'd be Weather SOSing for.
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Post by redridinghood on Apr 15, 2024 9:31:59 GMT 11
The SOS you see on the main city boards are every day SOS. Probably wouldn't edit in weather SOS everywhere as they apply and remove as that's substantially more work on the upper staff who can and do edit it (Lamont mostly) unlike swarms which are added/removed to 3~ areas to last for 3 months. Edit: or do you mean each Weather can have multiple options that fit that Weather? Considering most of the weather ones now aren't something I'd hunt for in a weather in a single month with such rare chances, heavily agreed. Even Munchlax in Ilex seems less of a headache than current Weather SOS (my opinion again) since I don't potentially need to wait for the right weather in the right month in the RIGHT SEASON for quite a few weather's only to have all that removed in a month (with 1 post 3 days that's 10 post. At best 2 SOS full attempts with a OHKO on 4 mons (orbed + 3 called) rinse/repeat, not counting longer response waits on top of possible longer rounds per KO) it's just. Not what I'd be Weather SOSing for. Yeah I'm talking about rotating weather S.O.S., could just be something that changes every couple months, or even seasons. So Rain in the Winter could S.O.S. a Water / Ice type or something, as oppose to Summer, ecterea. Could make it more engaging. Or maybe each area has unique S.O.S. Weather so maybe you could find Seel's in the Rain near the Ocean or something on Route 40 beach area. If you're worried about Weather hindering people who want to S.O.S. regular mons, maybe make several options to clear weather for a few posts like... Pokemon with Cloud Nine, Maybe make an Item or use Defog and such. I'unno if Weather SOS is suppose to be reliable, feels like a fun extra opportunity that pops up sometimes. But you can always make that opportunity feel better.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 15, 2024 10:06:49 GMT 11
To make it easier without all the every x months update for higher mods maybe just odd or even year rotation for weather exclusive sos area is my suggestion combing above suggestion 🤷♂️
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Post by Caramell 🍬 on Apr 15, 2024 10:55:25 GMT 11
To make it easier without all the every x months update for higher mods maybe just odd or even year rotation for weather exclusive sos area is my suggestion combing above suggestion 🤷♂️ I was thinking of weather on the main boards (banners) that's likely just upper staff. I could still see the possibility of it being a bit much to update and change every month, especially with everything else we have and do even with all the staff pitching in. But I do like the idea of options and something linked to the way the current guide with them is, so it's easy to reference what is when is more realistic. Whether it's just more options for each weather or different options for same weathers in different seasons/boards, though. If we maybe branched out and listed the SOS with a mark for the Weather requirement under it in each board (like we do for post badge requirement) that would be more realistic and best of both worlds, maybe? Still along the same ideas redridinghood and you Tiki are putting down and less threads mods (like myself) have to open up and reference just to get you modded. I'm not a fan of making an SOS even more difficult that's weather that's not going to really be worth the ultra rare (I could buy for $10k-$20k and no RT for instance) is we go season&weather both being a factor. Say like Seel? It took my 6 months and 5 orbs for some of my regular SOS mons, this is why. Unless I'm lucky or it's just a nice thing that I happened on, I wouldn't hunt it. But if it's a chance for seel sooner when it's hailing or getting it via Ice Path...still not going out of my way for it, but does make it much nicer to find sooner. So weather mons ALSO having other find areas, then I could maybe see that personally. (Which some do like Vanillite) I think just more options would open it up honestly unless we consider what Tarlar said and let weather-based moves trigger them as a possibility too. We may want to consider the health of the SOS mons we put in each field if we do that, so it's not as common as the regular route SOS mons if you have that move, though, to be fair. If their lore is supposed to be that they're weather specific and thus even rarer (especially for the areas). But route specific with weather requirements would open both the SOS field up and ease of modding, while also letting us consider who may be good where as weather specific SOS mons, to give the most options. ^^ That's my food for thought!
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Post by Tiki on Apr 15, 2024 13:22:49 GMT 11
weather updating every month is probably fine, it would get annoying to RP 3 months straight of rain (although I remember one of the city got unlucky like that once)
hence why i suggest just a yearly rotation of the SOS pokemon. new members would prob need a candidate pokemon that's strong enough to survive and knock them down anyways
when i said earlier about ilex SOS i meant like, WEATHER SOS pokemon. but if we migrate pokemon like phantump elsewhere, it's fine too. I AM SORRY IF ANYONE got the wrong idea
having weather move trigger them could give people a use for those TM's sitting around lol. unless they're stingy and waiting for right weather lol we could have people set up the weather for at least one previous battle before doing weather sos.
ex: fighting a meowth, current board weather is sunny a pokemon like poliwag use rain dance and KO meowth
next battle, poliwag must use rain dance again THEN sos
for route specific, we could do something like more forest path would have certain types in sunlight and hail, but in rainy weather spawns water route
sandstorm would be the tricky one to implement but could be like a drier route with sandstorm running
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Post by Caramell 🍬 on Apr 15, 2024 20:09:13 GMT 11
weather updating every month is probably fine, We already do this. I meant also updating the physical thread and/or Pokemon associated with the weather on a more monthly or often basis. It would be another task, not that it couldn't be done but that having such a quick rotation might be tedious to upkeep on top of everything else. Weather/Season specific updates on the current thread of weather SOS could also be too. We can already get crunched with swarm thread discussions and used to for npc trade when most or all the staff were busy. Would be better expanded than rotated, or a rotation that staff has access to the expansion of and streamlines the next options (still exciting for members there as they get "surprised" when the switch in happens, but staff either already know or easily rng between candidates for that weather/ season).
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