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Post by Ŀėx. on Apr 21, 2013 5:39:58 GMT 11
Eevee evos are all about adapting to environment. So that's a clue. Sort of. Maybe if we do get a fighting type it'll evolve after defeating a certain number of other Pokemon. ;3
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 8:32:31 GMT 11
That Victini cartoon was hilarious. As for Sylveon I do not know what to expect as far as type goes but the one thing I do know is I would die for a Dragon Eeveeloution and I know I am not the only one. I wish Nintendo would just go ahead and tell us Sylveon's type already as even if it were a new type which I doubt but do not want to say it could not be either it would still be nice to know. As for my own personal guess I would say flying would be he most likely if it is a current type as the long hair like things remind me of the windsocks off of Okami when the wind blows them around but I do see a few other possibilities such as the bug eyes which could make it a bug type or prehaps the first dual type evolution Bug flying as much as I would hate to see a duel type eevee before a Dragon type one it still is a possibility as well.
I also would like to know what types Yveltal and Xerneas are since I have seen a few guesses which could fit such as Dragon Dark or Flying Dark for Yveltal and Psychic Steel for Xerneas. There were other guesses I saw as well for their types but those were my favorite of the bunch. I just hope they do not make them types that make no sense like in a few cases such as Gyarados being Water Flying instead of Water Dragon despite only learning like 1 damaging flying type move but multiple Dragon type ones.
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Post by Teji Rejiri on Apr 21, 2013 9:20:41 GMT 11
I think that if you get Eevee to a certain amount of Beauty it'll evolve. (Not sure if beauty is still apart of the games if beauty isn't apart of it anymore then Happiness/Love)
Why I believe this is because if you google Nymph, it is a demi god who was beautiful. So that is how I got to that conclusion. If it isn't beauty, I believe it's love/happiness because when I grew up my older brother and his bestfriend used the word nympho which is a girl who loves to "love" in non mature language. So that is how I came up with that conclusion.
I also like the bug idea because the eyes look like bug eyes and the bow tie/ribbon looks like butterfly wings but my choice is staying with Beauty/Love/Happiness.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 21, 2013 9:48:55 GMT 11
I also would like to know what types Yveltal and Xerneas are since I have seen a few guesses which could fit such as Dragon Dark or Flying Dark for Yveltal and Psychic Steel for Xerneas. There were other guesses I saw as well for their types but those were my favorite of the bunch. I just hope they do not make them types that make no sense like in a few cases such as Gyarados being Water Flying instead of Water Dragon despite only learning like 1 damaging flying type move but multiple Dragon type ones. hold on. mantine is in a similar situation, but less dragon-y looking. I think the reason Gyarados is part flying is because it could glide in the air just as the electric flying squirrel. They don't fly long distance like birds, but gliding makes some pokemon part flying haha
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Post by Ŀėx. on Apr 21, 2013 9:58:24 GMT 11
lol I was going to edit this into my last post but seeing Teji's I'll just paste it into a reply post. ^^
The scene where Sylveon is smiling and showing off some moves (glowing spot near feet - ribbons glowing pink) and Vaporeon and Glaceon are showing off moves all while some crazy background is going on reminds me of contests and blending moves to make a show. Which further enforces how I think Sylveon is related to Beauty in some way. Either by evolving through it (like Milotic used to), or having a type concerning it. Feebas now evolves into Milotic using the Prism Scale, which boasts the same colors as Sylveon's ribbon tips
As I mentioned before it seems to have a melodic voice as well, so it might be the first Eevee evo to learn Sing.
....I would laugh my f***ing ass off if they actually based a Pokemon off of a nymphomaniac. It has nothing to do with love. If anything, Ditto would be the Nympho Pokemon. XD "Hypersexuality [aka nymphomania] is 'extremely' frequent or suddenly increased sexual urges or sexual activity."
Teji should I put you down for Beauty, Love, or Happiness? Only one guess is permitted. ^^
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Post by Avalon on Apr 21, 2013 12:20:21 GMT 11
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Sylveon is a Normal type. Just going with my instincts, since Flying (my original guess) was already made by someone.
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Post by Teji Rejiri on Apr 22, 2013 7:21:00 GMT 11
I'm going to say beauty I guess.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 22, 2013 8:03:42 GMT 11
LEX. Bug. THERE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 13:45:43 GMT 11
I will admit that Mantines type may not be the only logical combination but it can glide just like Emolga. In Gyarado's case in the anime to my knowledge it can only jump out of the water and not even glide but yet can somehow learn bounce and apparently fly up into the sky but for some reason although that has only been shown on the games and the anime has never shown it using Bounce even once. In the games it magically can levitate despite the anime never showing that which is something the games should really fix as it was never meant to do that based on the anime depictions. Another one I thought of after my original post is Lucario sure Fighting Steel makes some sense but as the only steel parts of it are the spikes Fighting/Psychic due to it being able to learn quite a few psychic moves and aura being a psychic like energy would make more sense for it's type. By all means the types most pokemon have could be argued as the best combination but that is just another example.
My favorite two mismacthed types I have read about from other fans are Charzard not being part Dragon Type and Blastoise not becoming Water/Rock or Water/Steel since the shell looks like a rock like Carracosta and the cannons look to be made of steel.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 22, 2013 13:52:39 GMT 11
I will admit that Mantines type may not be the only logical combination but it can glide just like Emolga. In Gyarado's case in the anime to my knowledge it can only jump out of the water and not even glide but yet can somehow learn bounce and apparently fly up into the sky but for some reason although that has only been shown on the games and the anime has never shown it using Bounce even once. In the games it magically can levitate despite the anime never showing that which is something the games should really fix as it was never meant to do that based on the anime depictions. Another one I thought of after my original post is Lucario sure Fighting Steel makes some sense but as the only steel parts of it are the spikes Fighting/Psychic due to it being able to learn quite a few psychic moves and aura being a psychic like energy would make more sense for it's type. By all means the types most pokemon have could be argued as the best combination but that is just another example. My favorite two mismacthed types I have read about from other fans are Charzard not being part Dragon Type and Blastoise not becoming Water/Rock or Water/Steel since the shell looks like a rock like Carracosta and the cannons look to be made of steel. charizard is still a lizard after evolving from charmander lol. that's the only explanation I can give. it still retains the lizardness and not too much of a dragon-ness like dragonair family or bagon family. IDk about blastoise... I always thought most steel types feature prominent amount of metal.. but then jirachi comes to mind. probably has to do with the dex entries maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 14:15:00 GMT 11
I would agree with the Charzard explanation if the Horsea family did not end with a dragon despite having nothing to do with Dragons and all and allof a sudden Kingdra becomes the odd one out at least Charzard looks like a Dragon. Kingdra which is just a seahorse with an abnormally long nose and a barnacle growth on it's back that again makes no sense. Blastoise is just like Carracosta minus not coming from a fossil and looks very similar both even being based off a turtule with a rocky shell but yet Carracosta is part Rock and Blastoise is left as a pure Water type. I mean sure coming from a fossil may make Carracosta a bit more rocky but still Blastoise should get some love as a Dual type as well.
Edit: Also the Trapinch family whose starting member Trapinch has nothing to do with Dragons and Swablu evolving into a Dragon for no reason are other odd balls that make poor Charzard look neglected by it's typing. Forgot about those two until I looked up Dragon types since I have no played Emerald in far to long. The other odd thing is Charzard is in the Dragon egg group even if it is not the only non Dragon if I recall it still is pretty weird that they never made it a Fire/ Dragon type after reading more about it not to mention it learns about the same number Dragon type moves than Flying ones from a combination of TM's , Tutor's and leveling up. I will admit that an oddity is how the hell Ekans and Arbok are in the Dragon egg group though.
Jirachi is another example of types gone horridly wrong. Here we have a little star like pokemon with no Steel parts at all except maybe the tiny blue things but yet it is a Steel type when pure Psychic just makes a lot more sense. I am not saying creativity or making unique type combo's is a bad thing but they have to make sense. Empoleon is a great example of a good typing as even though it is a bird it cannot fly so it's typing is great and fairly creative for something based off a Penguin.
All in all pokemon is not the only series with a bunch of things that make no sense but after a while I just get to thinking why have they not fixed that in 15 years again.
Back on topic though is anyone else hoping the new Mewtwo form is not a pure Psychic type since it seems like such a waste to give Mewtwo a new form and keep it a single type given the fact that it has to go up against Genesect which has a type advantage. I highly doubt they would use the typing but I would love to see it be Psychic/Dark for the hell of it since Mewtwo does have the most cynical heart among pokemon and even if it would be even weaker type wise to Genesect it would be great for it's personality given how it was created and knowing Game Freak they love having weird type combos it would be interesting to see Mewtwo as a duel type reguardless of which typing it could end up being if they make it a dual type.
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Post by Ŀėx. on Apr 22, 2013 15:01:09 GMT 11
This is a Seadragon (close relation to the seahorse)
has some similar vibes as Kingdra
Two water/rock turtles might be redundant. Water/steel makes sense though because of the cannons, but I still can't imagine it learning steel type moves. Would end up changing Blastoise too much if suddenly more than just water came out of those bad boys. That goes for knowing rock type moves too.
Psychic/Dark could be pretty cool.
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Post by Tiki on Apr 22, 2013 15:20:38 GMT 11
RE: marchbaby don't forget kingdra evolves with trading and holding dragon scale. as for what exactly does "trading" means in pokemon evolution, i have no clue. (try explaining why haunter needs to be traded to evolve. Carracosta is from fossils... pretty much anything from fossil is part rock... i don't know how to argue there. maybe Blastoise is so immerse with water that there's not much dual type going on? haha for trapinch, see bulbapedia articles on the origin and the evolution lines. it's based on antlions i believe. I think altaria is based on some chinese mythology bird. as for swablut, i'm too lazy to look up haha. magikarp and sceptile are in dragon egg group too... but then egg groups might just mean "relatedness". Related, but not exactly precise? what about the snakes? hahaha. But then the dragon might just be the reptilian nature or the scaley/serpentine scales? I'm still trying to figure out both jirachi and empoleon rofl. but maybe it's the empoleon's armory design? IDK. the question is, are we, the players and fans, just frustrated because it doesn't make sense in the way we thought or wanted or are we not digging deeper into why nintendo designate certain types? no comment until official info of new mewtwo form
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Post by Vorn on Apr 22, 2013 21:23:02 GMT 11
I just want the starters to be new combinations of things. No more Fire/Fighting and plain Grass and Water types.
Plus wtf Mewtwo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 13:05:13 GMT 11
I totally forgot about the Dragon Scale that Seadra uses to evolve even if as you said it is a mystery as to how it all of a sudden becomes a dragon although I had never heard of a sea dragon before it still is a fish just with Dragon being part of it's name that could at least be part of the reason and Hunter is another perfect example of an evolution that makes no sense just because of it being traded. As for the Trapinch family Flygon is a dead on dragon but the first two are more insect like even if Vibera has a bit of a dragon look it is still closer to a bug so Bug Ground would be a better typing for the first two although I did read the parts about the east asia dragon influence which I only know a decent amount of european ones so that may be part of it but even then it takes it back to the Charzard thing about it being a dead ringer for a medieval dragon and the reptilian nature of it's family makes it even weirder since a dragon is pretty much a fire breathing lizard with wings.
If the Axew family can be seen as a dragon for being based off of a dinosaur since there is not a dinosaur type unlike Yugioh then it just makes everything weirder. The Dragon egg group relation idea is pretty good at reptiles being at least somewhat dragon like but still kind of weird the monster group would make more sense for some of them although that still leaves the whole Skitty and Waillord thing which makes the Charzard not being a Dragon seem like a far smaller thing overall. When it comes to the egg groups pokemon has so many wtf moments it just baffles me.
As for Jirachi I still get a laugh just thinking about it's fail typing but Empoleon as a flying type would make no sense as it could not fly so pretty much it is the best they could do without making it a pure water type unlike poor blastoise. I mean Water Steel would not kill the poor thing plus Iron Tail and Iron head would get a boost and the Cannons could always fire Flash Cannon so there are a few things to work with.
One thing I would love to see would be triple types as it would solve a lot of issues such as Charzard becoming part Dragon as well as Gyarados and Kyurem's new forms would gain an extra type depending on which one it is in. Sure balancing would be an issue but some pokemon such as Mewtwo are far from balanced anyways as far as having at least 1 major weakness since it's Aura Sphere pretty much is a Nightmare for Darkrai.
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