Fairy Trail Idea

[Tiki]

+1 to battle confey then rebuild flower

to add on to picking flowers idea:

I saw Caramell 🍬 edit some ilex forest posts like Luminous Vale and Pine Gap and idk if they're set up for this quest. If it is, would adding adjective for some flowers' generic terms be helpful? some flowers are called one word but then you google and find out they can come in at least three more colors.

to add on to pixel's make it easier for everyone idea:
we can actually ask member to go around pick the flowers and link them all on the "meet the totem" post and the mod just come in and check them all for colors and quantity

in the trial guide we just have to ask people to link all the flowers they picked in the posts to receive credit or something?

[Lamont]

Just noting all Trial discussion is in this thread so there's no secret development going on with it.

I haven't had the time to read through everything but so far I like Pixel's suggestions for resource management vs. time spent wandering for flowers.

Also yes to having members link to the posts where they successfully collected flowers when checking if they've completed the task.



A reminder to try and organize the final draft info into the templates I posted ages ago to make it easier for us to review & make live when ready. It's much easier to skim composed draft notes than try and read through a dozen walls of text full of dropped ideas.

[Pixel]

Just throwing stuff at the wall in the template format, picked up from the thread.

DRAFT - TRIAL 4: FAIRY - ILEX

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All That Glitters

<Intro text here>

Requirements:

Must have completed "The Darker Side".
You may only use 3 Pokémon, chosen at the start of the Trial, and these must be no higher than Level 32*.
It's recommended that you choose a team with levels ranging from 28+.

*Higher level pokemon can be used in the trial with the risk of disobedience.

Location: Ilex Forest

Description:

<description here>

Rewards:

Fairium Z
Alolan Exeggcutor evolution open
+10% Alola Encounter Chance from Amulet

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Staff Guide

<intro notes for mods to setup area & describe expected flow>

Stage One
Traipsing into the Shady Glen, the trainer will stumble upon a Comfey dancing in the clearing while holding some flowers. Startled, the Comfey will instigate a battle with the trainer to protect its flowers. The next stage of the trial will begin when the Comfey is defeated. 

Flower Veil
Comfey | Level 25
Grass Knot
Draining Kiss
Leech Seed
Synthesis

Upon defeat, Comfey flees crying and upset, its flowers ruined! The trainer follows and finds a small book on Flower Arranging on a wooden pedestal in a sunny spot. When opened it talks about the Language of Flowers and how 3-10 flowers make up a bouquet. The trainer will notice that all the nearby flowers are gone/trampled/otherwise missing. Perhaps they can make it up to the Comfey by presenting it with a new bouquet to make up for the one they destroyed?

Stage Two
The trainer needs to collect at least 3 flowers before returning to the Shady Glen. Nothing happens if they return with fewer than 3 flowers. However, the nearby areas each have different colored flowers. Depending on how many they pick and which colors, there will be different results. Trainers can effect the difficulty and type of Totem they encounter based on the type of bouquet they make. 

(Gloomy Ravine) Red - Shinotic/Grimmsnarl?
(Enchanted Orchard) Yellow - Ribombee/Dashbun?
(Mahogany Knoll) Blue - Alolan Ninetails/Galarian Rapidash?
(Gleaming Hollow) White - Togekiss/Azumarill?
(Luminous Vale) Pink - Clefable
Even - Florges

When gathering flowers, a trainer who picks more than 1 at a time in an area will have to face a battle with the pre-evolution of the associated totem of the flower color at LV25. If a trainer picks more than 5 in one area, they will face a double battle! Fairies are very protective over nature and picking more than one flower upsets them!

The player must wait for a mod to confirm the number of flowers they are picking before moving on to a new area. The player must link all visited zones when returning to the Shady Glen to make a bouquet. 

A bouquet of 3-5 results in the easy version of the totem. A bouquet of 6-9 results in a medium version. And a bouquet of 10 results in the hard version of the totem. 

The total number of flowers determines the difficulty of the trial, for example:
3-5 flowers (Normal): no modifications
6-9 flowers (Intermediate): the Trial Pokemon is +2 levels higher, and the player gains an RNG Healing Berry for victory
10 flowers (Hard): the Trial Pokemon is +2 levels higher, has an additional TM move, and the player gains a Heart Sweet for victory.

[Tiki]

Alt title suggestion:
Stop and Smell the Roses!
Flower Power
Ditzy Pixie
(there's not a single rose in ilex forest)

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my attempt at description:

Traverse through the Ilex Forest and assemble a wild flower arrangement for the Totem Pokemon! Plan your arrangement carefully or casually, and let the Comfey guide you to the next Trial.

Comfey:
I just realize, usually the elder couple introduce you to the next guide, so having to battle comfey right away feels weird. maybe we can tweak it slightly like a distraught comfey needed to let out some steam because its bouquet was lost/crushed/ broken? (just same idea but changed the set up)

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Ilex Forest:
I've talked to Caramell that those descriptions weren't for the trial set up and more for general RP guide for everyone. I figured we could double the purpose for the trial. bolded words are my additions. I just google what colors some category of flowers a plant can have and just include the colors we need for RP. I am doing this because some flowers do come in like so many shades and this is just to specify what colors are present for when RPer go scavenge their colors.

Gloomy Ravine tweak:
A densely packed network of trees spanning the sides of a gorge. Gloomy is appropriately named given the difficult time the sun’s rays has trying to penetrate its way through the entangled network of tree limbs in the canopies high above. Wild grapes, breeches, and honeysuckle grow around the ravine in abundance, nearly choking out the available ground below. Clusters of bright red, yellow, and orange honeysuckles can be found blooming their best amidst the shaded forest. The Pokemon found here are more hospitable to lower levels of light that filter through and easily make their homes along the wild shrubs. A gentle stream surges along almost quietly within the ravine, providing the wild flora with water.

Enchanted Orchard:
The orchard is home to a plethora of wild plants that are both safe to eat and tasty for the consumer. Wild blueberries grow in abundance alongside blackberries and grapes on thick shrubs and climbing vines. The trees bring forth fragrant flowers within the springs that eventually grow sweet peaches, juicy oranges, and succulent pomes, among many others. Trainers are known to stop along their trails to enjoy the wild fruits that grow within this part of Ilex. They are warned of their toxic lookalikes, such as nightshades, that comes in white and yellow colors, and cotoneasters, that comes in pink, red, and white.

Luminous Vale:
I've rearranged Luminous Vale a bit to fit in flower colors.
The vale is a beautiful place where the sun’s rays easily reach the ground. A valley that stretches just shy of Shady Glen’s reach and leading off towards a hollow at one end and a knoll at the other, Luminous is teaming with life. Luminous runs through gently sloping hills along the forested stretches of Ilex, with sparser populations of oaks and pines dotting along its stretches that allow travelers to adequately stretch their legs.

Relax and admire the beautiful wildflowers blooming in abundance here. There are pink or yellow weakstem mariposa lilies for romantic Pokemon to express their love. There's also poppies in variety of colors, including red, yellow, blue, white, and pink varieties. Last but not least, even light blue to white lilac sunbonnets can be found growing where the other flowers don't. Watch your steps on the flowers!

Gleaming Hollow
A sheltered valley with a babbling brook running through its stretches. A plethora of Bug Pokemon make their homes within the Hollow, finding delicious decaying plants such as fallen logs as a viable food source for them. Though the Hollow offers some room to stretch your legs and allows light to filter through it’s spacious canopies, it is still heavily forested. Sheepishly pink Lady’s Thumb, dazzling pink and white Gerardias, brilliantly yellow Black-eyed Susans, and scouring rushes grow in abundance around the large oaks and towering pines. Through the tall grasses are many thick shrubs that can make navigation a bit tricky for the unwary traveler.

Mahogany Knoll:
The knoll is famous for its tall mahogany trees whose beautiful trunks make some of the best, quality products for many residents throughout Johto. It runs along a gently sloping hill that is moderately difficult to traverse. While the knoll is known for its various mahogany types, it is also home to wonderful spectacles as well. Beautiful orchids of various types and colors coming in red, yellow, blue, white, and pink grow in abundance underneath the canopies, alongside twenty feet tall passion fruit flowers leafy palms. It is home to a variety of Pokemon, who feed off it’s bark and find shelter within its thick trunk. The pathways may be littered with fallen trees and dead branches, so trainers are warned to watch their steps.

Pine Gap:
The gap runs as a wide, open area between two large hillsides that are considerably difficult to climb. Several species of pine trees grow wild throughout the area, spanning their way up both sides of the hills. Nestled beside them are impressive oaks and leafy palms. Wild hydrangeas in red, pink, blue and white grow on large shrubs underneath tall pines trees alongside bright pink rhododendrons. Broad leafed grasses such as broomsedge and wood grass grow wild throughout the open stretches of land around the thick shrubs and tall pines. Birds make their nests along their sturdy branches and within the thick shrubs, while wild Mankey and Slakoth nestle safely within the canopies.

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Jan 21, 2024 10:55:56 GMT 11 Pixel said:

The player must wait for a mod to confirm the number of flowers they are picking before moving on to a new area. The player must link all visited zones when returning to the Shady Glen to make a bouquet.

The player must wait for a mod to confirm the number of flowers they are picking before moving on to a new area. The player must link all visited zones when returning to the Shady Glen to make a bouquet.

I thought we're making easier to mod by just counting at the end?

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Grimmsnarl evolves at level 42 so Im suggesting Impidimp instead
G. Ponyta is psychic type and evolves into rapidash at level 40 so kicking it out? Wigglytuff suggested instead
I have no comment which one goes to which area. heh.

Sample Pokemon Sets
Trying to not give them all super high power moves so some of these moves can be tweaked to slightly weaker moves?
I notice some of these can be nasty with RNG or stalling. idk

Impidimp Prankster Level 28 Torment Swagger Sucker Punch/ Bite Fake Out

Shiinotic Effect Spore Level 27 Strength Sap/ Giga Drain Sleep Powder/ Confuse Ray Ingrain/ Giga Drain Moonlight

Ribombee Shield Dust Level 27 Stun Spore Pollen Puff Draining Kiss/ Absorb Struggle Bug

Dachsbun Well-Baked body Level 27 Work Up Play Rough Baby-doll Eyes Tail-Whip/ Covet

Alolan Ninetales Snow Cloak Level 25-26 Icy Wind Dazzling Gleam Confuse Ray Disable

Wigglytuff Competitive Level 25-26 Body Slam Hyper Voice/ Play Rough Stockpile Mimic/ Disable

Togekiss Hustle Level 25-26 Life Dew Yawn Ancient Power Double Edge/ Tri-Attack

Azumarill Huge Power Level 25-26 Tail-Whip Play Rough Bounce Play Rough

Clefable Magic Guard Level 25-26 Life Dew/ Encore Moonblast Sing Copycat

Florges Flower Veil Level 25-26 Grassy Terrain/ Misty Terrain Magical Leaf/ Petal Blizzard Moonblast Synthesis/ Wish

[Jenesis]

Dec 26, 2023 16:13:34 GMT 11 Pixel said:

It's nearing midnight on Christmas, but I was in the mood to look at trial stuff and realized Fairy was next on the list~!

I love the idea of battling a comfey and then you need to make it a new one. What I do not enjoy and feel is super tedious is the pick 1 flower in every zone, wander around all of Ilex to find the right color flower for three months aspect to play extreme hard mode idea. Because let's assume you want to pick 20 flowers. Even if you were modded every single day you posted like a bike post, that is a min a month. But let's scale that down to 10 for the 3-10 idea.

10 mod posts over what will be around 3-5 days on average as they aren't bike posts. Getting us between 30-50 days BEFORE you even get a chance to battle the boss. Of course, you could argue they could always just do the easy quest which is a far more reasonable 3 flowers, but since the color effects the encounter, uh oh, now you're wandering around the forest for another two weeks. It stops being interesting after the first couple times of saying 'i pick a flower and move on'. 

Hi, I'm still in lurk mode, but just posting here to clarify--

No version of this quest should ever require a mod's intervention just to verify that the player has picked a flower.

The way Ilex Forest is set up, if you're not on a quest or actively looking for an encounter, you can just make a post in your character's current area and move on to the next area. If you don't want any of the wild Pokemon, you could theoretically finish the Farfetch'd quest and then leave the Forest in a single day. The idea is that the player will naturally be collecting flowers as they move through the area doing whatever they wanted to do anyway, i.e. looking for specific encounters and completing other quests.

If this is still too tedious (especially for players who've completed the Forest once already), then yes, restricting the flower-collecting to a few specified areas is good. You'd still have to make generic travel posts to move between those areas, though.

[antonius]

I'm fine with picking multiple flowers at any given location with the idea of punishment if they pick more than one. The idea of having more than 5-7 areas for flowers would be a bit much for me. If you want to use all 20 than have some repeat especially if someone wants to make a bouquet of all one flower and they don't want to grab more than two or three at one location. I do like how Pixel summarized most things in the proper format. We just got to be careful with the descriptions not getting too long for becoming a wall of text.

[Tiki]

I'm not sure if there's some confusion on how it works, but the original intent in Pixel's post was that, if the player picked up more than one flower (flower color to specific, as different flowers can have same color selections), then they would face pre-evolution pokemon.

However, my reply (and jenesis's understanding) was that, the mod would only count the flowers after the roleplayer links to the posts where they pick the flower colors, and how many.

which led to, are we posting the pre-evo before the totem pokemon, or post the pre-evo "territorial" fairy pokemon on the post of pre-totem check? in that case, I am thinking, no more than a single double battle, then a totem pokemon

ex:
1 blue flower
1 purple flower
1 white flower
--> proceed to totem pokemon

2 to 10 blue flower
1 purple flower
1 white flower
--> double battle with pre evo pokemon--> totem pokemon

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As for anton's reply, the idea was the have the area as an option for the role player to select the flowers, but you don't necessarily have to go through all of them to get a single flower in each post. The way Ilex forest is set up, you might loop through same area twice, but it doesn't mean you have to get the flowers right then. You could also battle a wild pokemon in the middle of the quest, if something's swarming?

the quest is designed to be flexible for players how they want to present the bouquet and that affects what totem pokemon comes out

this isn't the first quest with long mod guide, as long as we keep the public one clean and easy to read it should be ok

[Tiki]

Has this idea where the elder couple will tell you to thank the tapu pokemon or nature or whatever sun moon games says for having z power (or your own pokemon bc power of friendship)
And the flower wreath pokemon is gathering bouquet to thank them when it got broken

Might be more easier or interesting story telling to weave into our trials

[Lamont]

Just following the latest posts... This looks like it's on a great track. Overall flow seems good, onboard with only checking flowers when the bouquet is presented. Regarding the spawning extra battle when players pick more than 1 in an area... That could be deferred until they present the bouquet too. Have it be chain battles based on the number of extras they took and don't incentivize having too many extras; reduce the options. Keeps the scope down for mods and doesn't allow for the quest last a really long time with tons of extra battles.


I think it may be a good idea to not use one of the existing start/end areas used by other quests. Being everything simultaneous is supposed to be actually RP-wise happening simultaneously that might be a bit weird or cluttered/confusing/easily lost/etc if there are multiple being done at the same time.

Could we use Luminous Vale as the 'core' area instead? It's intended to be the bright, flowery, area of the forest.

- This would reduce the color options by 1, which I think is good to keep the scope down.

- I'd restrict the picking to just be 1-3. Adding higher numbers and extra rules doesn't add much purpose just complication and things to remember. Difficulty numbers could then be:

• 4 = Normal (no extra battles or 1 extra but travelled at least 2 areas)
  
• 5+ = Intermediate
  
• 7+ = Hard (min 2 extra battles)
  

- Opt for Mahogany Knoll to be Red flower to match the area theme

- My Vote for Totems: (Florges is good for even #)

• Gloomy (Blu): G.Rapidash
  
• Orchard (Ylw): Ribombee
  
• Knoll (Red): Shinotic or Clefable
  
• Hollow (Wht): Togekiss
  

*Too much heat/headache to lookit moves atm. Also, for all trials after New Bark, Totems also need to have an associated Stat Boost.

- Have battles only happen once bouquet is presented, and they become a chain battle -- no time between to heal. Only care about extra flowers that determine the totem and base it on how many more than 4. For some examples:

1 Red 2 Yellow
- Player just battles Ribombee.

2 Red 2 Yellow (or 1 of each color)
- Player just battles Florges.

2 Red 3 Yellow
- Player battles a Cutiefly then Ribombee.

For bonus difficulty rewards, basic berries are distributed a lot and don't feel too special. Thinkin... RNG one of the top 5 Mulches instead of a basic berry? Still growing/flower/berry adjacent.


For Hard Mode TM ideas: Nature Power?