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Post by The REAL Joey on May 13, 2011 3:45:00 GMT 11
Definitely one downside to B&W was the starters themselves. When they were revealed they got a lot of flak (Especially Oshawott who I still absolutely abhor) but I thought Snivy and Tepig were pretty cool looking. Their evolutions too seemed fairly okay as well. Tepig's line was ultimately the one I liked best (Despite the fact it was the third generation we've had a Fire/Fighting combo... Urrrgh)
However, when I got the game I made choice to start off with all three. As Morri got it around the same time I did, I started off with Snivy and Oshawott on separate files and then traded them over to her. It wasn't until I made my current playthrough that I went with Tepig and traded them over.
I used them all up until about Nacrene Gym which is when I just dumped them for better Pokemon. Oshawott was definitely the worst, i'm not sure if I had a crappy IV one or just horrible luck but it couldn't win it's first two fights and it took forever to evolve it (Which is ironic because it's second form is my favourite out of the line). Snivy was a bit meh too due to the fact he was only really good at one thing and one thing only. Overall I enjoyed Tepig the most with his Flame Charge but his speed started to suck and when it evolved into Pignite it was still pretty good overall but it was at that same time I got Darumaka who overtook him completely.
I definitely think this generation could have been a lot better had the starters had a bit more oomph to them. They just seem totally outclassed by everything.
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Post by revolvingscott on May 13, 2011 5:48:40 GMT 11
I hated the starters. Especially the evolutions. I picked Snivy because I hated it the least and used it for a couple of battles before I caught one of the Dog pokémon and just used that instead. Haven't touched it since.
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Post by The REAL Joey on May 13, 2011 6:40:06 GMT 11
Mine are rotting away in my box somewhere. ;D
I am very annoyed though, when playing the Japanese version of B&W I managed to get a shiny Tepig. Which is great and everything as that's the first time I ever got a shiny starter. Problem is I wasn't able to transfer it on the account it was on a ROM. Oh well, i've since deleted the files but it does begrudge me a little.
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Post by revolvingscott on May 14, 2011 6:37:33 GMT 11
Was it on a computer rom, not R4? That's terrible! I'd want to die. That's bad as the time, in Sapphire, when I saw a Shiny Wurmple... but hadn't got the PokéDex yet. *****ing Birch.
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Post by The REAL Joey on May 14, 2011 6:55:33 GMT 11
Yeah computer rom. I know you can transfer them onto an R4 and all that but i'm not exactly going to pay out all that for one shiny i'm not particularly going to use. At first I thought it was the rom being a hacked one to always show shinies but I tested that and it definitely wasn't the case.
I do think they should make it a rule that no shinies appear before you get your first Pokeballs/Pokedex. It's a real HAHA BUGGER YOU moment.
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Post by revolvingscott on May 14, 2011 7:00:07 GMT 11
I was almost in tears. A bit like when I saw my first shiny (in an earlier view of Sapphire) and immediately turned off my game, thinking there was a bug or something. Then, I told a slightly older pokéfriend and he told me it was a shiny and super-rare and that I should go die for being so stupid (maybe not that last one) and I just felt terrible. Silly me.
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Post by latani on May 14, 2011 11:14:35 GMT 11
EFF SNIVY UP THE ASS
Holy shit, I picked Snivy and trained it all the way to Serperior and he turned out like a piece of crap. Shitty movepool and lacklustre stats bro.
I got a good Oshawott, my Delacroix, as Joey saw, is a right beast and I couldn't imagine not training him. I'm using Tepig (now Pignite) on my Black Nuzlocke run and he got a good nature and IVs.
But yeah I hate Snivy's line.
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Post by The REAL Joey on May 14, 2011 12:24:19 GMT 11
I think my opinion will drastically become a lot more positive when we get our hands on Dream World Snivy. Dat Contrary ability, gosh darn. That is some pretty cool ability. Just a shame it doesn't get much outside of Leaf Storm.
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Post by revolvingscott on May 14, 2011 20:48:19 GMT 11
Ho. Ly. Shit! I just looked at that and by God does that look incredible! Get me Dream World Snivy, Joey. GET ME IT NOW!
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Post by The REAL Joey on May 15, 2011 1:56:42 GMT 11
Serperior used Leaf Storm! It's Sp.Atk sharply rose! With it's fairly decent defensive bulk, it definitely has some use. Oh and damn good speed. That low Sp.Atk won't be all that much of a bother after a while. Just wish more Pokes could have Contrary. Contrary on a Draco Meteor user would be overkill.
Oh and I was thinking, seeing as we've had three consecutive appearances of a Fire/Fighting line, I kind of wish Emboar was Fire/Dark. I know it's not a unique typing (Houndoom etc) but it'd vary things a little. :/ Or maybe just left him pure fire seeing as the other two are pure typings.
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Post by revolvingscott on May 15, 2011 2:08:45 GMT 11
I hated the third Fire/Fighting in a row - it's just getting annoying at this point. I'd much rather they put in some originality to get the typings! Emboar would have suited Fire/Dark, in my opinion but since I love Dark types but hate it the dilemma would be horrible!
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Post by The REAL Joey on May 15, 2011 2:15:48 GMT 11
The fact Emboar has some likeness to Ganon from the Legend of Zelda series makes it seem like a better fit. I just wish they'd do something original. It really didn't impress me hearing it was going to be Fire/Fighting again. I wouldn't mind so much if they were vastly different in play style but they're all near enough the same. Except in poor Emboar's case he is slow as snails.
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Post by revolvingscott on May 15, 2011 2:23:37 GMT 11
Not only that but they didn't make it look badass! The reason Blaziken worked so well was his badassery was ridiculous. Monferno/Infernape (can't remember which is the final evo) wasn't all that badass but you could see he posed a bit of a threat. That one just looks like dinner to me.
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Post by The REAL Joey on May 15, 2011 2:31:28 GMT 11
Tepig/Pignite I can agree with (Hell, even my trainer card says I wonder if PIGNITE is TASTY) but Emboar looks a bit threatening. Certainly not something i'd like to be trapped an alleyway down with.
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Post by latani on May 15, 2011 14:52:45 GMT 11
Hahaha Joey my TC says the same thing ~
Honestly, Contrary isn't enough to make me like Snivy. I love the design of the line (except Servine tbh) but the screw-over of moves and whatnot just pissed me off.
I also hate the Fire/Fighting theme. I was already annoyed with Infernape but at least Emboar is cool looking (reminds me of a feudal warlord, hence my Black version Pignite's name). I just hate Pignite's design for some reason.
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